theoceanandthesky:

mycultureisnotatrend:

feministdisney:

amnesiatits:

hautdogg:

siryns:

icicleman:

feministdisney:

for more on native appropriation:  http://mycultureisnotatrend.tumblr.com/

first off, i’d like to say i completely agree with the image and disgusting appropriation of other cultures for cheap laughs and entertainment.
NOW anecdote.
when i was a kid (like, five or six) i absolutely loved pocahontas, because i thought she looked like me. we both had long black hair and we both had (at least what i thought) the same skin color. so, one year, my mum made me a pocahontas halloween costume and i even had the necklace and arm tattoo (but as an arm band). i collected the toys and even had the soundtrack.
i’m older now and i have a little more sense in me to know that i am not native american. i am portuguese. we are not the same. and dressing up as a native american, even if it was a fictional character, was probably not the best choice.
but that’s in my past. at the time, i was just happy to have someone i thought looked like me. my mom probably didn’t think much of it either since i doubt she was reading articles or books on cultural appropriation (my parents can read enough to get by, but they really don’t like reading particularly in english for obvious reasons. it’s been almost twenty years and i still get asked how to spell or say certain words). parents today though—if you are able and know better, then you shouldn’t be dressing up your kids as native americans or banditos or gypsies. and i wish i could send this message up to corporate too, but i doubt they give two fucks what i think.

ugh word this. I definitely dressed as her as a kid because she was my favorite Disney character, and her ideals were something I looked up to as a kid. But still, that wasn’t the proper thing to do. And while I won’t defend my mother’s ignorance, I also understand it isn’t something her generation thought of (hell she’s ignorant in a lot of ways that I think were a product of how she was raised/grew up), but it’s important to think of these things, and to also learn that hey, these are real people and we shouldn’t be doing this.

dressing up as a character isn’t the same as dressing up as a race. while dressing “like a native american” is wrong, i don’t think dressing up “like your favorite character” is quite the same. it’s a small technicality, but i think it’s important.

What Katya said. <3By these people’s arguments, dressing your child up like Tiana would be appropriating African Americans, dressing your child up like Rapunzel would be appropriating Germans, dressing your child up like Belle would be appropriating the French, where does it end? So children shouldn’t be allowed to dress up in costumes unless they are representing their own culture? If so, how is that even a costume? Are children not allowed to pretend and dream anymore? Geez guys. I would also like to say that “Cowboy” is a style in clothing stores, but you don’t see any of them complaining that they’re not being taken seriously as a people.

Aright, I’m going to address some of the concerns brought up as best I can.Dressing up as a character ISN’T the same as dressing up as a race.    But, quite accurately as the above pointed out, it is a SMALL technicality in this case because Pocahontas is seen by mainstream white culture *to be a representative of all native americans.*  Therefore, if she does not accurately represent some, let alone all, native americans (which she does not), then she is a problematic character to costume up as.   Dressing your child up as Tiana is not appropriating African Americans  (at least, not that I’m aware) because she is not assumed to stand for all African Americans.   When children dress up as Tiana, they are putting on a dress, a normal dress, and not an inaccruate version of what Disney thought a native american female would wear.Rapunzel, Tiana, and Belle’s movies had little to nothing to do with their perceived/implied cultures and didn’t really do anything to misrepresent them to their young audiences.   Pocahontas’ movie and character had everything to do with the white, majority culture’s perception of Native American culture.    Therefore, these situations are inherently different.Also, there is no underlying assumption in American culture that German, African american, or french culture is something we can take and use for ourselves (for the most part).    There is no underlying assumption that all “real” versions of this culture only exist historically and not present day.    German and French cultures also have a lot of privilege in and outside of the United States that Native cultures do not have (obviously, african americans do not hold as much systemic privilege as these groups).    So again, these characters are not the same and cannot be held to the same standards of what is “acceptable,” because their cultures and portrayal of said cultures are not the same.Trust me, there are tons of costumes out there that children can wear that don’t involve disrespecting, mocking, or stereotyping another culture.   You can find one if you look hard enough through the approximately 5,000 options kids have in stores nowadays.The cowboy point was not really a good one, unless you’re going to make a point that “cowboy culture” has been similarly treated by white culture as native culture has been.    That would be patently false and offensive.    Cowboys have long been held up as “hero figures” and are not really a culture by themselves- you can maybe say it’s a subculture based upon an OCCUPATION, but that’s what it was: a job.    Just because a bunch of old movies portray “cowboy v. Indians” does not mean they’re equivalent cultural groups.    
Also, remind me of the times that Cowboys were long historically abused by the culture that overtook them.    Tell me about the cowboy Trail of Tears.    Look up for me the time America redacted on its treaties and didn’t pay the cowboys for the land it strongholded from them.    Remind me of all the times America portrayed cowboys as brutal savages in its movies and books.    Let me know how many cowboys are still alive today, stuck on reservations of shitty land the government has allotted them after taking all the good parts.     Leave me a link detailing how European culture forcibly oppressed/killed/eliminated many parts of cowboy culture.   No- that never happened, so once again, “cowboy” style being in clothing stores or worn as costume is not the same as native american appropriation.

BOOM!  Also, #cowboy culture is not a real thing and no they are not being mistreated is my favorite new tumblr tag… 

for my anon.

this is such a valuable discussion.
there are nuances.
we know that pocahontas was not sacajawea, but i’ll be damned if their imagery wasn’t interfuckingchangeable in grade school when i was learning about The Brave White Explorer Men and shit…
i could be up all night w/ this stuff. i won’t. i’ll go to bed. 

theoceanandthesky:

mycultureisnotatrend:

feministdisney:

amnesiatits:

hautdogg:

siryns:

icicleman:

feministdisney:

for more on native appropriation:  http://mycultureisnotatrend.tumblr.com/

first off, i’d like to say i completely agree with the image and disgusting appropriation of other cultures for cheap laughs and entertainment.

NOW anecdote.

when i was a kid (like, five or six) i absolutely loved pocahontas, because i thought she looked like me. we both had long black hair and we both had (at least what i thought) the same skin color. so, one year, my mum made me a pocahontas halloween costume and i even had the necklace and arm tattoo (but as an arm band). i collected the toys and even had the soundtrack.

i’m older now and i have a little more sense in me to know that i am not native american. i am portuguese. we are not the same. and dressing up as a native american, even if it was a fictional character, was probably not the best choice.

but that’s in my past. at the time, i was just happy to have someone i thought looked like me. my mom probably didn’t think much of it either since i doubt she was reading articles or books on cultural appropriation (my parents can read enough to get by, but they really don’t like reading particularly in english for obvious reasons. it’s been almost twenty years and i still get asked how to spell or say certain words). parents today though—if you are able and know better, then you shouldn’t be dressing up your kids as native americans or banditos or gypsies. and i wish i could send this message up to corporate too, but i doubt they give two fucks what i think.

ugh word this. I definitely dressed as her as a kid because she was my favorite Disney character, and her ideals were something I looked up to as a kid. But still, that wasn’t the proper thing to do. And while I won’t defend my mother’s ignorance, I also understand it isn’t something her generation thought of (hell she’s ignorant in a lot of ways that I think were a product of how she was raised/grew up), but it’s important to think of these things, and to also learn that hey, these are real people and we shouldn’t be doing this.

dressing up as a character isn’t the same as dressing up as a race. while dressing “like a native american” is wrong, i don’t think dressing up “like your favorite character” is quite the same. it’s a small technicality, but i think it’s important.

What Katya said. <3
By these people’s arguments, dressing your child up like Tiana would be appropriating African Americans, dressing your child up like Rapunzel would be appropriating Germans, dressing your child up like Belle would be appropriating the French, where does it end? So children shouldn’t be allowed to dress up in costumes unless they are representing their own culture? If so, how is that even a costume? Are children not allowed to pretend and dream anymore? Geez guys.
I would also like to say that “Cowboy” is a style in clothing stores, but you don’t see any of them complaining that they’re not being taken seriously as a people.

Aright, I’m going to address some of the concerns brought up as best I can.

Dressing up as a character ISN’T the same as dressing up as a race.    But, quite accurately as the above pointed out, it is a SMALL technicality in this case because Pocahontas is seen by mainstream white culture *to be a representative of all native americans.*  Therefore, if she does not accurately represent some, let alone all, native americans (which she does not), then she is a problematic character to costume up as.  

Dressing your child up as Tiana is not appropriating African Americans  (at least, not that I’m aware) because she is not assumed to stand for all African Americans.   When children dress up as Tiana, they are putting on a dress, a normal dress, and not an inaccruate version of what Disney thought a native american female would wear.

Rapunzel, Tiana, and Belle’s movies had little to nothing to do with their perceived/implied cultures and didn’t really do anything to misrepresent them to their young audiences.   Pocahontas’ movie and character had everything to do with the white, majority culture’s perception of Native American culture.    Therefore, these situations are inherently different.

Also, there is no underlying assumption in American culture that German, African american, or french culture is something we can take and use for ourselves (for the most part).    There is no underlying assumption that all “real” versions of this culture only exist historically and not present day.    German and French cultures also have a lot of privilege in and outside of the United States that Native cultures do not have (obviously, african americans do not hold as much systemic privilege as these groups).    So again, these characters are not the same and cannot be held to the same standards of what is “acceptable,” because their cultures and portrayal of said cultures are not the same.

Trust me, there are tons of costumes out there that children can wear that don’t involve disrespecting, mocking, or stereotyping another culture.   You can find one if you look hard enough through the approximately 5,000 options kids have in stores nowadays.

The cowboy point was not really a good one, unless you’re going to make a point that “cowboy culture” has been similarly treated by white culture as native culture has been.    That would be patently false and offensive.    Cowboys have long been held up as “hero figures” and are not really a culture by themselves- you can maybe say it’s a subculture based upon an OCCUPATION, but that’s what it was: a job.    Just because a bunch of old movies portray “cowboy v. Indians” does not mean they’re equivalent cultural groups.   

Also, remind me of the times that Cowboys were long historically abused by the culture that overtook them.    Tell me about the cowboy Trail of Tears.    Look up for me the time America redacted on its treaties and didn’t pay the cowboys for the land it strongholded from them.    Remind me of all the times America portrayed cowboys as brutal savages in its movies and books.    Let me know how many cowboys are still alive today, stuck on reservations of shitty land the government has allotted them after taking all the good parts.     Leave me a link detailing how European culture forcibly oppressed/killed/eliminated many parts of cowboy culture.   No- that never happened, so once again, “cowboy” style being in clothing stores or worn as costume is not the same as native american appropriation.

BOOM!  Also, #cowboy culture is not a real thing and no they are not being mistreated is my favorite new tumblr tag…

for my anon.

this is such a valuable discussion.

there are nuances.

we know that pocahontas was not sacajawea, but i’ll be damned if their imagery wasn’t interfuckingchangeable in grade school when i was learning about The Brave White Explorer Men and shit…

i could be up all night w/ this stuff. i won’t. i’ll go to bed. 

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"[Trigger warning- trans* erasure, racism, bigotry]

Or how about this. I am really Native American. How do I know? I’ve always felt a special connection to animals, and started building tee pees in the backyard as soon as I was old enough. I insisted on wearing moccasins to school even though the other kids made fun of me and my parents punished me for it. I read everything I could on native people, started going to pow wows and sweat lodges as soon as I was old enough, and I knew that was the real me. And if you bio-Indians don’t accept us trans-Indians, then you are just as genocidal and oppressive as the Europeans.

Gender is no different. It is a class condition created by a brutal arrangement of power. I can’t fathom how mutilating people’s bodies to fit an oppressive power arrangement is frankly anything but a human rights violation. And men insisting that they are women is insulting and absurd.

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Lierre Keith, being a transphobic and transmysogist asshole and trying to appropriate us natives who actually have and acknowledge trans* and two-spirit people.

This is why I can’t really take Derrick Jensen seriously (I see quotes of his randomly about tumblr), mostly because he hangs out with this fucktwat.

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Yeah, I think Derrick Jensen has some important things to say in regards to how fucked up capitalism is and the nature of violence in our society, but he completely fails at so much. The fact that he can’t call out his friend on this really horrible bullshit (I have even personally emailed him about it with absolutely no response from him, yet all other emails I sent to him I received a response) tells me all I need to know. It sucks because his books did inform me of a lot of things, but now he’s just a big old disappointment.

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Wow.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!

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badlandspolaroid:

I love Raja, but I am seriously tired of her appropriating Native culture. It’s not funny to me anymore as a Native American. I don’t care if she’s a drag queen and it’s supposed to be “funny”. It’s really starting to bother me and I’m tired of it. This regalia means things to cultures, spiritual things, and if she’s not trying to bring awareness to the struggle and the oppression of Native Peoples then it shouldn’t be happening. I don’t think it’s appropriate for one minority to trivialize the humanity of another, especially when I try so hard to be an aspiring ally for the LGBTQ community. 

For some background information on this continuing issue: 

But Why Can’t I Wear a Hipster Headdress? http://nativeappropriations.blogspot.com/2010/04/but-why-cant-i-wear-hipster-headdress.html 

To quote: 

Although we are a mostly invisible culture, that does not grant anyone the right to appropriate what little pieces of our past we have, robbing them of their dignity. Part of being seen as “trendy” also makes an entire culture not only a commodity, but also something that people will (and can) tire of; therefore being disposable. And to me, that is unacceptable.


Headdresses promote stereotyping of Native cultures.


  •   “The image of a warbonnet and warpaint wearing Indian is one that has been created and perpetuated by Hollywood  and only bears minimal resemblance to traditional regalia of Plains tribes. It furthers the stereotype that Native peoples are one monolithic culture, when in fact there are 500+ distinct tribes with their own cultures. It also places Native people in the historic past, as something that cannot exist in modern society. We don’t walk around in ceremonial attire everyday, but we still exist and are still Native.” 
  •  

It’s just like wearing blackface.

  • “Playing Indian” has a long history in the United States, all the way back to those original tea partiers in Boston, and in no way is it better than minstral shows or dressing up in blackface. You are pretending to be a race that you are not, and are drawing upon stereotypes to do so. Like my first point said, you’re collapsing distinct cultures, and in doing so, you’re asserting your power over them. Which leads me to the next issue.”

There is a history of genocide and colonialism involved that continues today.

  • By the sheer fact that you live in the United States you are benefiting from the history of genocide and continued colonialism of Native peoples. That land you’re standing on? Indian land. Taken illegally so your ancestor who came to the US could buy it and live off it, gaining valuable capital (both monetary and cultural) that passed down through the generations to you. Have I benefited as well, given I was raised in a white, suburban community? yes. absolutely. but by dismissing and minimizing the continued subordination and oppression of Natives in the US by donning your headdress, you are contributing to the culture of power that continues the cycle today.”

And:

“But I don’t mean it in that way, I just think it’s cute!

  • Well hopefully I’ve illuminated that there’s more at play here than just a “cute” fashion choice. Sorry for taking away your ignorance defense.”

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